TODD BONNEWELL: Good morning, everybody.
I'm going to get started.
My name is Todd with MadeOpen.com.
Is the sound all right out there.?
Yeah?
All right.
It looks like our chairs didn't meet their expectations with the number
of people, but I appreciate everybody coming
out this morning, and I'm going to get started
by talking about capitalism.
Why we have it, what the need for it is, and what we need to do as a people
to to move forward in a direction that makes
a little more sense to to everybody here and everyone we
know and love.
So to get started, basically capitalism and government
are just two systems that we as people created.
This is nothing that we were we happened
to be born with, it but it was nothing that was here
before we got here.
We as people created these systems and why do we create systems?
Well, we have a need.
We have several needs, and we solve problems
through systems.
It's the way we think.
And through time, these systems have been created,
capitalism, through the market solves problems,
there's study on capitalism and markets and supply and demand,
but I'm looking here at more of a fundamental fundamental need
for these systems, and what I see is that markets solve people's problems
and when markets can't solve somebody's problem, that's well,
that's where we create governments.
Governments step in to take care of the problems that markets cannot
or do not solve.
Well why wouldn't a market solve a problem?
If we look at capitalism, we can see the answer to this is pretty evident,
where capitalism being defined as a socioeconomic system,
where goods and services are produced for profit, we see right there,
that the very definition of capitalism is for profit.
If corporations don't see profit, they don't do business there.
So we continue to have problems that
the market doesn't solve.
So we need other systems and we create governments
and problems.
Let's not try if we can all agree here, and please, we'll stop right now,
if anybody you know, and we have a discussion.
If anybody doesn't agree to some level, corporations don't control
the government, that's a I mean, that's a fundamental assumption that
I'm making is that we can agree that
without corporations, governments will act a little more efficiently, and
a lot of the problems that we have created
by these two systems are problems that are not people problems.
These are problems that have been given to us by these institutions.
So to say it's not to say that we don't need government
or their systems are bad.
These are systems that we created to solve these problems.
So what I want to do is fundamentally get at what do we
as people, what do we want?
What do we need?
What are we looking to do?
You know, we have these systems but these are old systems.
You know, these are these are systems that are
great, great relatives, you know, created at some point in time
to solve a problem.
Corruption is entered over time, and but, again, I would try
to stay away from those topics of corruption
because if we can just agree that we can attack capitalism here, and play
the game of capitalism, that some of the government things will those
will shake themselves out and we won't have
to focus our attention there and some problems will just disappear.
And, so what I want to talk about is the is our problems.
What do we have as problems as people.
We have needs.
We have desires excuse me, we have fundamental needs
and desires, food, clothing, shelter.
We have needs of safety which enters
in the whole idea of currency.
What is currency, but just a futures of something that you want or need.
If you didn't want or need anything in the future,
you certainly wouldn't have a need for currency.
So I want us to start thinking about where are we going.
Because I don't think many people are asking that question.
We are all caught up in our day to day stuff and our heads are
down and we work extremely long hours and, you know,
what does this give us in the end?
Where are we going?
And if we lift our heads up for a second, where do we want to be?
And we have to make the simple assumption that we're
automating more and more and more stuff.
And when that stuff gets automated, down this path that we are headed
down now, with our heads down, we eventually get that pink slip,
we get laid off.
Automation, it will solve our problems
but not our problems at this rate.
What we have in the end, we have fully automated corporations.
We have several people standing outside of these corporations saying,
we want your goods or services, and the corporations are saying, yeah,
remember that costs money.
And we say, well, we don't have any jobs anymore.
And the point is, not to have that discussion.
The point is to say, forget that discussion.
Let's talk about what we want and need, assuming we will automate everything.
Because I think that's a simple assumption to make that
at some point in the future, whether it's 5 or 500 years,
that we're going to fully automate everything.
So if we think about that, as a people and say, okay,
how do we control that automation?
Because clearly, the way we're doing it now
is not going to result in the people owning this automation.
So and, again, down that path, nothing I don't believe anything good
is there.
I mean, we can talk for an hour about how we take this thing back,
when everything is fully automated and whether it's redistribution
or wealth, all the revolution, everything that could possibly happen,
let's not get there.
Let's be smarter than the people before us.
Right?
Because after all, isn't this really about the future.
Isn't this about our children and our children's children?
At the end of the day, I'm not working so that my bank
account can be a certain size so that my kids smile
when I die saying, oh, good, I got some money.
I'm looking to make this place better.
I'm looking to make this place better in some substantial ways.
So what would a system look like?
What would everyone here be happy with?
And that's a you know, we're really talking some ideologies
and to me, the most simple answer to that question is to ask people,
what do you want and need?
And what are you willing or able to do?
Now, with these two questions, these are fundamental questions
and I don't think, you know, good or bad people it's not
the answers don't have to be the same, but the questions.
It's that those questions fundamentally resonate with people no matter,
what because it's about them.
It's about the individual.
It's not about the entire collective.
We are asking you, what do you want and need?
Just tell us, because I mean I would certainly rather
be working in the sim where I knew what people
want and needed and these things were measurable.
And then the other side of it is, what are you willing or table to do?
Now, we have not automated everything yet.
So we do have to live in this in this world that we that we still live in,
where not everything is automated.
So what do we do?
We need to figure out a way to still solve problems,
up until the point of automation.
But, again, it's to get the it's to get that vision.
It's to get that collective vision that says, okay,
we know there's this point we want to reach, where everything
is automated and we just kind of get everything that we need,
and we can kind of focus on whatever we want
because everything is automated.
So we can do whatever we want to do.
So it's not to really focus on what that vision would look
like out there, but to say what its fundamental
requirements would be.
And I believe two fundamental columns, wants and needs and what
they are willing and able to do.
When people are willing and able to do, people are able to do amazing things.
We are not at a loss for people doing amazing things.
We are at a loss for direction.
We are at a loss for people doing amazing thins
because they are doing them because they get the self benefit,
not the benefit of humanity.
So if we look at those things, how what are these things.
What are these things that we can how do we arrange these things that we
want and need.
And I believe to have that discussion, we need to be talking
about the only resource in human history that
is not been able to be controlled by force.
So you can't physically control data like you can physically control oil
or land or water.
So we're constantly creating this resource called data and we don't stop
creating this resource.
This resource, we continue to create and we don't create it
in a static way, in a linear fashion in growth.
It is exponential.
You know, what else are we going to be collecting?
It's not just data like location and pictures.
This is medical information.
I mean, we're at the macro level, there's not really a lot to collect.
We have we keep collecting more and more about ourselves, but why?
What are we going to do with all of this data?
Well, it's not us that's doing anything with that data that's that's productive,
that's corporations and we're just getting a glimpse in what we are
all about and into what we do and they are already calling it big data.
What's next?
After big data, what comes?
Huge data?
It just doesn't it's not something that it should be big data small.
It should be big data personal, right?
And we have a lot of talk about data these days and I want
to take a take a few minutes right now to talk
about what data is, because there's a lot of talk
about data privacy, but there's one thing that
is assumed when the word "data privacy" comes
out of somebody's mouth.
They have assumed you don't own your data because the conversation that
ends all conversations about data privacy
is the conversation about data ownership.
You know, they are not on CNN and Fox talking
about data privacy, where, you know, what do the people do with this?
How do they control it?
It is in the peoples.
It's theirs.
It's the corporation's.
It's their data.
It's not our data because if it was our data we wouldn't
need to talk about privacy.
We don't talk about, oh, geez, I hope the mortgage broker that sold me this
house doesn't come in the house and make himself a sandwich
in the middle of the night.
We have certain things that we have to assume that we have the rights
to and that privacy, through ownership is one of them.
And if we're not assuming that we have those rights, then we have you know,
there's much bigger issues.
Those are personal liberties and these are personal freedoms.
These are simple terms of use and we need
to refocus on ownership.
So, what is data?
We have this notion of data being video, pictures, audio,
texts, yet we have four data types and we have thousands of services,
all this to share four data types.
Does that make any sense to anybody here,
that we have thousands of services that your data
is spread over at least tens of services per person here,
where your data is all over the place but you only have four data types.
It makes absolutely no sense to me.
I mean, I understand why and the definition of data I think,
will clarify that in a few different ways.
Those four data types I talk about, that's not all data.
That's all of what we store as data or past data and I believe there's three
tenses when it comes to data.
You have past, present and future.
And I don't to my knowledge, there's nobody talking
about three tenths of data and the reason is your past data
is what you as a person, you feel this emotional attachment
to your past data because that's what you did.
That's where you were.
That's what you know, those are pictures and I'm
the same way.
And that's very valuable to us.
But at the same time, we understand as a people that it's more important
to live in the moment, that right now is more important than what happened
last week, but we still want that stuff.
We still need that stuff.
And our present data is called our attention.
So if I have your attention now, I have your most valuable form of data.
You might want to believe that your pictures
of the past are worth more, but right now, this
is all that makes a purchasing decision, when a corporation looks at data.
It's your attention.
It's the only thing that makes that click happen, because if a pop up comes
up and a better deal appeals, that transaction is gone.
The attention has never met your future data, which is your intention
to do something.
With these three tenses of data, past, present and future, what are these
to a corporation?
How do they value them?
And I will use Facebook as an example, just because they are the biggest
and I don't like them very much.
They are basically allowing you to put your past data somewhere.
This is a very inexpensive resource to store.
We all know this.
But why would they store something for us?
It's so that we come back, right?
So our intention is to come back, so that they have our attention.
And when you see when these three different things, when you start
to look in your daily lives and figure out,
what are these three tenses of data, how do they apply to me?
I'm a data creator and that's the way we need to look at it.
These are data points that don't exist without people.
If you create your own data, past, present and future, how do we do it?
How do we manage it?
Facebook, they certainly have all of them do.
They want your data for the sole reason that you
will come back.
If you don't have the intent to come back, that's it.
Their value is gone.
You know, if everybody had no intention
to return to Facebook tomorrow, what would the stock do?
It would have little to no value because it's about people's intention.
And people don't realize the value of this intention.
That's where I really want to focus our efforts,
is on capturing your intent and your attention in order
to compete in this game that we have inherited.
I believe that we can compete within capitalism,
to have companies that are run by people, that create automated things
that do automated things that play in the market.
But in the end, their responsible to the people.
Because that's not what we have now.
And we all know this and, you know, we have government officials telling us
that we can't get anything done here.
We can't do anything.
And we as the people say, well, that's your job,
but they say that's injure job as a people to direct us.
So we're at this standstill.
Where nobody knows what to do.
We have too many you know, I see at the midpoint of my life,
I see I look back and see the generations coming
and these some are smart people.
And I believe that I already need I feel like I already need to get
out of the way and one of the biggest problems we have
in corporations, it's greed, and the inability to get things
out of the way and let it progress.
It's an older generation.
We evolve as people.
So what we need to do, we need to take this back, and we can do this
by concentrating and focusing on this resource called data that, again,
nobody is stopping us from diverting our attention
from somewhere else.
No be is stopping us from saying, I'm not going to Facebook anymore.
Nobody is stopping us.
That's capitalism.
All I'm saying is we have technology.
We have this cloud technology that can provide some incredible value.
You know, when I first saw a cloud offering, I couldn't believe it.
I said, why even try to compete?
Why to create products or services anymore,
because they're just weak incremental steps.
It is a new way to share a picture.
Now, yeah, great, there's power there, I can you know, you look
at the power of the cloud and the storage and the computing
and it's it's absolutely amazing.
And what I believe we need to do, is just take and tone it back
and make it personal.
We talk about a personal cloud here.
Just imagine a personal cloud is all the power of a cloud for you.
So now you have that unbelievable computing power at your fingertips.
You know, and we a lot of us have already seen this.
We understand, but it's about getting people behind it.
We are thought leaders these days.
You know?
Geeks used to not be thought leaders, right?
Now we are.
Now we dictate what comes, what happens, you know, smartphones,
50% US adoption of the smartphone in five years.
That's amazing.
We did that.
Not corporations.
It was people.
So if we concentrate on taking our data and owning it,
through any means, such a person such as a personal cloud,
we can start to really look at what our intentions are, excuse me.
What our intentions are and what our attention
is and how we move things forward.
So this personal cloud, if you think about it,
from the perspective of communication, is a great is a great introduction
to the personal cloud.
When a telemarketer calls me, instead of getting my phone, Twilio
will route it to my personal cloud and it will say, geez, look it
up in my contact list and say this person
is not known by you.
And when that happens, I haven't been notified yet.
There's no need for me to be notified yet.
My personal cloud handles it and it immediately puts this person
into a queue that says if you are willing
to if you are interested in talking to Todd, he's available and his time
is worth $15 a minute and here's the credit card account.
So the information can be taken and I get paid for my time.
It doesn't matter what that attention is.
I gave an example of a phone call as being a way
to put our attention on something.
But it's anything.
It's a it's YouTube.
Like, why do we get interrupted with commercials?
That's so it just doesn't even make sense.
Like you irritate the consumer, the advertiser doesn't get their value
out of it.
Just show 'em all to me at one time.
I don't need to be interrupted.
These things are you know, this is us taking back our attention.
This is us putting forth better technology
for people, for corporations, to still compete,
but we slowly grab back some of this attention and intention.
Intention is very powerful, because if we knew what everybody
wants and needs, that's their intention.
If we knew what we wanted and needed we could deliver on it
and we can deliver on it in a much better way than
the market currently delivers on it.
These companies guessing at what we need and these companies
competing to create products that are ultimately
the same, but they're all terrible, because one has got the best screen,
one's got the best keyboard, one's got the best radio, and in the end,
you don't have a full solid product
because you have ten genius scientists trying to create the next best screen.
All competing against each other.
None of them sharing any of their information, and then
the winner these genius scientists have to go off and figure
out different ways to solve the problem.
That doesn't sound like innovation to me.
That sounds like inefficiency.
And what I'm saying is if we just need one screen.
I don't need one screen for a smartphone, one screen
for whatever it is.
I don't need any more than that.
But corporations, you know, through patents and trademarks,
they have to they have to do it this way.
This is the game they play.
Right?
And I'm just saying, enough is enough.
We're sick of playing your game.
It's not fun.
It creates problems.
If you look at the problems of people, you have simple things.
When you look at the problems that corporations
and governments create, this is war!
This is genocide.
This is terrorism!
These are not nice problems and these are problems that we
as people inherit from systems that we created.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
I mean, maybe I'm nuts but, you know, I'm here talking to you people
because this again, you are the thought leaders out here.
You are the people that are going to take these messages back
to your friends and to your family and pass it along.
We are trying to do something.
At MadeOpen.com, what we are trying to do
is we are trying MadeOpen.com is me.
It's one person.
And I'm not afraid to admit it and I work for you.
That's it.
Who else works for you?
I'm trying to figure out what point out into the future we need to get to,
and I want feedback.
This is why I'm here.
I'm trying to figure out where we get to, and then how we get there.
And then within my lifetime, make as much progress as I can
to that end because then at least this way, I can tell my kids, hey,
I tried.
Right?
Sorry, the world sucks but I tried.
I didn't just, you know, do what a lot of people do, go to work every day
and hope things get better.
Hope somebody is out there working for me.
So I'm looking for people to work with me.
I'm looking for ideas and I and it's not over.
I want to talk a little bit more about the personal cloud and what
the benefits of that, because I believe that fundamentally,
I'm here to talk about the direction and I believe the personal cloud
is the first way in which we change that.
Because, again, with a personal cloud, that's your data.
That's your control.
So we just solved the problem of privacy,
by instituting one simple technology so that you can put all of your stuff
in one place, see it how you want to see it.
So I will give a couple of examples of what we can do
with a personal cloud.
First of all, I believe security becomes
a much easier issue.
If somebody at Facebook tries to log into ten times into my account,
guessing passwords.
I don't know what Facebook's policy is, but I know what my policy
is and I know what your policy would be.
And that's more important than what anybody else's policy S.
as soon as you start controlling your data you make these decisions.
You control what happens when somebody comes in.
To your personal cloud.
Right?
And this is a personal cloud, it's just an abstract idea.
There's people abstract idea.
It's an abstract idea of sharing stuff.
You have four data types.
And all of these services, they're spread
across and that right there, you know this whole API revolution we
are seeing, it's not because companies want
to share their data, right, their data, not your data.
They don't want to share their data with their competition.
These are grown men, who can't make an agreement.
Right?
These are it's crazy, but it's the world we live in,
and these APIs are supposed to give us more access.
It's neat because, yes, we can do some cool stuff.
What if it was in one place.
What if all of your data set in one location?
What could you do with it then?
You could do some amazing things because now all of your data can talk
to each other and it's not about today.
You know, today we live in this moment, where we think, wow,
look at all of this data we are collecting, right?
The location data, you know, movement data, it's it's going
to get smaller and smaller where it's medical data,
and embedded devices and wearable devices and when this
happens, and we're collecting more and more data, what's enough?
You know?
How can we make that data intelligently talk to each other?
You know, home automation, devices within home automation,
not being able to control those.
At what point do we get control back?
Well, it's when the market demands it.
It's when somebody puts something um on a crowd funding site
to get funding to create something that's open source.
I'm saying, let's make everything open, right?
It's not about this initiative with government
to make open government.
It doesn't make any sense.
They are just opening up more of our data.
That's not beneficial to us necessarily.
The corporations I'm sure are loving it.
But it's not for us.
When I say open, I mean control your date first.
Own your data first.
Then share it.
Then open it.
Right?
Then give it to who you want.
Because I for one am willing to share everything
about myself anonymously to research groups, who are trying
to solve big problems, like cancer, diabetes.
Let's I'm willing to tell people what I eat, what my and what my pulse
is at any given time, all of my vitals anonymously.
Imagine what that graph looks like.
That's what we will be dealing with in a few years.
This is not something that's not coming.
This is certainly coming.
So all I want to do is look out there and say, how are we going
to manage this when we get there?
How will we manage this amount of data?
How do we take our attention and intention and start to use it
in a way that benefits us instead of them?
And I believe if we put options in front of people,
who know what these things are that I'm talking about, again, this
is very little education to take back to your loved ones.
Four data types.
Why are we sharing so much with so many different people when we
only have four things we share?
Why don't I have one application for pictures?
And then the three tenses, to actually think, what
is this data that we are talking about.
Why do we think of video images, audio and text,
and why done we think about attention and intention.
Where is the privacy policy talk on that.
If we focus on growing something that can manage
your attention and your intention, through data ownership, such
as a personal cloud, then what you do is you have
the power of your data at your disposal.
You can run applications within your own personal cloud,
not let anything out, you know, these are again,
smartphone adoption five years.
We can do the same thing we did with smartphones, we can do
with personal clouds.
We have the technology.
It's available.
You know?
So what I'm trying to do is get people behind this movement,
get people at Made Open talking about this.
I'm going to be much more active leading
up to this, I have been doing a lot of work.
So I haven't been as active on that and the Twitter account but it's
at MadeOpen.com or at Made Open and what better than using
the social networks to their own demise.
Let's organize through the resources we have
and organize the slow, dismantling of these corporations, right?
So that we as people can step out and live our lives and not have
to deal with these measures, these unnatural pressures that we deal
with, that make people break, that create this overpopulation
in our prisons.
And let's fix the efficiencies of these corporations, you know,
that over population of prisons is a great example
of where corporations and governments is a system
not only failed but they leave you believing how this
happened, right?
How was it that we have a system, a penal system where we incarcerate
people and it's not profitable.
So the market can't take care of it.
So government comes in and says we will take care of it,
and at some point, government says, we can't do this as efficiently
as a corporation, so let the corporation do it.
So something that wasn't profitable, all of a sudden became profitable.
That's not even in my mind, it's not even possible.
Something happened, right?
Some numbers were changed.
Something happened.
And this is happening all around us.
You don't need to look far to get an example.
So the personal cloud.
There's a group at that meets out in Mountainview, California,
called IIW and there's a big group of people that are working
on this personal cloud, and I would, you know, implore you to take a look
at what they are doing, search about personal clouds and start
to become active members of this new community that we're
starting to form, where we're actually concerned
about where we are going.
And that's what Made Open is.
So I don't really have too much more that I have prepared to say.
So I would like questions and feedback.
That's what I would really like to open it up and do.
Anybody?
Yes, sir?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Inaudible).
TODD BONNEWELL: Well, I'm just one person.
If you think about I mean, technically, I don't know if you are a developer
or not, sir, but the question was how much
of this personal cloud is done?
And there's a bunch of people working on it.
They have been working on it for six or seven years at IIW.
The interesting thing when you sit in these sessions,
you can tell it's they're guided by principles that you are happy
to hear about, right, liberating people's data but almost
the next questions out of their mouths
is how do we make money?
And that's where it's lost on somebody.
That's where you can't make progress because you are still trying to figure
out how do we give this personal cloud to somebody in its entirety so
they can own their data, yet we still control it.
And you can't.
And it doesn't fit a business.
It's not today fit a business model.
This is for the people.
Right?
This is something we need several open source versions
of personal clouds where people are working on a platform, to do this.
And it doesn't take a lot to create a simple personal cloud.
If you look at what you know, AWS, for example, what
they are giving us is tools.
Now, the setup process isn't easy but this is what we are used to.
This is you know, we can't just tell people, here,
install this software.
Go to AWS, set up an account and here's how you upload.
Here's how you manage your settings and all of that.
It's not going to work.
That's not a commercial product.
We need to create a commercial product,
but that always starts here.
You know, what is Dropbox, but FTP, right?
We do these things over and over and over again,
until the point when one of us figures out to make money with it.
It's always simplifying so the user can manage it.
We need to grab on to this thing called a personal cloud.
I'm sure a lot of people are already doing something
similar to it, but the point is to share, how are you protecting your data?
How are you encrypting it?
What level of privacy can we expect when it
ultimately gets to somewhere else, when we decide that we don't you know
when I make the decision that I don't need
to own my data the same way that somebody else does.
You know, and I'm willing to say, okay, you know what,
Amazon can have that and I'm not going to encrypt it.
It is not that important.
Or I encrypt it and lock it in a closet in my house.
Right?
But it's up to you.
Your personal cloud is your personal cloud.
It's your data.
And so to answer your question, there's it's there's progress,
but it's more important that just like with a personal computer, it's
like there's a computer and it's in a room, and it's huge,
and now it's many our pocket.
You know, the same thing with a personal cloud.
The idea is huge.
We're doing it, though.
You know, this is it's not new.
So the idea is to take that and put it in our pocket.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Inaudible question) TODD BONNEWELL:
When you look at these products, you want to look at what the limations,
who is owning your data and move from there.
They will put putting all of our data in one place, this
is where we are going as a people, like, we need to get our data in one place.
The question is: Who are we going to trust with it?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: There are products like home cloud and spider
is more secure.
We understand what they are doing but it's important
to understand that there's more than just personal data.
There's data that rainfall data, pollution data.
So we don't own that and that's okay.
So we've got to be able to use that data and this
is where big data products are coming in.
There is public utility right now it's just been used, you know
to sell more products and there are companies like spelunk that are using it
to send us ads.
I appreciate what you are saying with personal data.
There's a lot more than that.
For example, if I die, many I data I no longer can set rules
for it, but that's history, right?
We need to figure out ways to mine historical data, personal data,
social data, in ways using the new technologies that are
coming out.
TODD BONNEWELL: Yep.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: To get somewhere and we need
to have efficiencies.
TODD BONNEWELL: Right.
So if I can sum that question up, touched on there being public data that
we need to think about and I agree, that it's not all personal, but ultimately,
it's collected by people.
So there was that, and then can you sum
up the second part, I'm sorry?
Can you sum it up?
AUDIENCE MEMBER: I was saying, in addition, there's also data that comes
that we as a society could use, such as pollution data, or rainfall data,
and we've got to be there are now new technologies
like hedging and map produce that try to make sense of it.
That static data is also with spelunk that is taking data
in motion so when we use with our smartphones,
it's using that traffic they are bidding on sending you an ad.
TODD BONNEWELL: Right.
Okay.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: So they can use that and turn it
around for the use of people to make owe site more efficient.
I mean, people are doing that right now with with trying to map cancer.
TODD BONNEWELL: So taking that data and making things more efficient
through its use, right?
Yeah, absolutely and that public data that exists out there, that's ours.
You know, and that's it's really not ours right now.
Like, it's not well, it is I mean, it is individual because where else
is the weather or whatever relevant, but to me, where I am,
or where I intend to be or where I know people
to be that I'm interested in, right?
It's all the personal you know, without people on this planet,
the rainfall does not get, you know, calculated and, you know, like,
historically saved and it is what it is.
We have the intention to leave our house tomorrow
if it's going to rain.
But, you know, some of us don't care if it rains.
So public data, again, it's what is necessary for you?
And there's always that need for for us to have some kind of system,
but, again, it's a system of the people.
You know, it's a system where you control that data,
where you hold on to that and do what you see fit
with it.
You know, I believe we're owed these things just
for being alive.
What is more amazing than life on this planet.
We are spinning on this rock, and we are fighting
with each other over money.
Like, all just things that we created.
So, you know, just trying to organize some troops here.
Any other questions?
Good.
All right.
I appreciate your time.
Thanks for having me at DEF CON.
It's been a great first time and I look forward to talking
with you out in the hall.
(Applause).
Thank you.
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